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Re: Just Can't Win for Losing[Yaksha/Ulv]
Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:08 pm
Yaksha, The Anthropophagus
"Yes and no. What I have has no real corollary that I could put into words. And I have no real interest in testing out my...little trick any longer. It was an act of purest spite, and I would feel too dirty after this conversation thrusting it upon you. In time, I'm certain I'll be able to make you understand the delights of letting yourself cut loose and not worry so much about winning or losing. For now, it's time to discuss something else entirely."
His expression had turned oddly businesslike now, most of the previous emotion draining out of it. Now there was a sort of jovialness to it, as if he were trying to coax a smile out of a petulant child, or as if he were trying to pitch a product to a potential buyer. Every word rang with earnest delight, and warmth. Despite all of this, nothing in his facial expression or his posture had changed, giving the entire thing an air of patent falsehood that was jarring to see, from someone who seemed to have no real investment in the things he was saying.
"I kill when I have the luxury of not having to look my would-be victim in the face. When I haven't formed anything approximating meaningful connections. I strike with the swiftness and the certainty of a lion pouncing upon prey, and I do my best to outpace the nightmares it carries with it. I haven't ever...fought, as such. It's simply felt like a needless endeavour to me. If you intend to kill, you strike to kill from the very start. If you have no intention to kill, violence is pointless. It strikes me as little more than bullying, to use force on another with no intention of striking them down in the end."
He then rose one hand, flicking it out towards the crowds of people below, and -now- there was something odd in his eyes. It was a strange mixture of disgust and interest, as if he were warring within his own heart to determine if he was talking about something he hated or loved. It was likely the same tone someone would reserve for the most long-standing, and obdurate relationships; there was love there, compassion, and an endless antipathy that hovered beneath it all.
"Did you know that they will often make bets on the outcomes of fights? That strikes me as absurd, even by the standards of betting. Anyone who would delight in savagery that much? It's so utterly alien to me, I can't help but wonder if they would ever step into the same stage they look down upon if given the opportunity. I've killed and I've slaughtered, and so have you. But the notion of fighting for pleasure...I honestly can't say I've so much as touched on the topic. And yet, I daresay it may be the only way that the two of us could ever find any sort of common ground."
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Re: Just Can't Win for Losing[Yaksha/Ulv]
Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:27 am
The Reborn Wolf
Ulv pouted and looked sad when Yaksha didn't want to use his trick anymore. She wanted his trick to trick her and see if it's trickiness was better than her anti-trick protocols. And so she was gonig to chase it, just to have something solid on this island of ever-shifting topics.
"It's ok. Spite and malice are emotions like any other. If you neglect one in favour of the other, you are never truly balanced. You have to acknowledge the things you want to do that are vindictive and hateful. If you really want to be good, you can restrain the damage you might cause, but you can never restrain the act itself, less you go pop and never stick to one emotional or facial expression"
"Violence is the most versatile action in the world. Sure, there are times when using it is cause for bullying and being a nasty bugger, but there are also times for when it becomes a sport. One for self-improvements, one to give yourself a goal to aspire to, and one to validate your own worth in your own eyes. Much like every other sport, really. It just leaves you a little more sore when you have finished" Ulv looked out to the people, and then started bobbing like a boxer.
"You could benefit from having a boxing ring in your casino. I could help with the expansions so you can fit tit in, and then you'll get people who can show you the glory of none-lethal combat. Fighting isn't always to kill, it is something to show your dedication to the art. Fighting is a gamble, where you are pitting your skill and luck against the other man's and hoping to come out on top. Either take bets or charge a small fee for ring-side admittance, either way works. People like to bet on everything. People bet on how long it takes someone to die by from shot in the gut. You can't change their nature, you can only ride along with it"
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Re: Just Can't Win for Losing[Yaksha/Ulv]
Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:38 am
Yaksha, The Anthropophagus
Yaksha turned his head towards Ulv for the first time since he had risen, his expression there almost concerning in its naked delight; he probably couldn't have looked happier if she'd offered to return all the money she'd won, and then some. Or if she'd offered to kill someone for him. There was such an intense expression of interest there, it was almost unsettling. The manic glint in his eyes were probably the sort of thing one expected to see in the eyes of a serial killer, or someone equally dangerous.
"It just so happens I've installed such a thing already. I'd been looking for contenders for quite some time. As for the...glories of non-lethal combat. I can only say that, just as you've never been properly trained in the finer arts of making bets on uncertain outcomes, I've never been taught how to enjoy the messy, hectic nature of a fight. I will confess, I relish games of chance far more than ones of physical prowess. I just never found time in my busy schedule for physical training. And it's not exactly as if I could find anyone to tutor me."
As he spoke the last words, Yaksha's face turned stony, as if a mask had suddenly been tossed over it, or as if he had suddenly been reminded of something very unpleasant. He turned away once more, adjusting his tie and then straightening his spine. He was still smiling, but now there was something frayed at the edges, as if he were trying to whistle through a graveyard, or remain chipper as he was stuck in a situation he very much wanted to be out of.
"You must understand...to me, hearing 'fighting' and 'art' in the same sentence strikes me as absurd. I've seen enough fights to say that there's little room for beauty in a contest of force and flesh."
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Re: Just Can't Win for Losing[Yaksha/Ulv]
Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:03 pm
The Reborn Wolf
Ulv looked at Yaksha, and for the first time - unlike Yaksha himself, who was for about the eighteenth time - her expression changed. It deviated away from the happiness and bubbly persona of what she usually was, and became something less obvious. Like looking at a painting while underwater. Your eyes blurred and you had no idea what it was, only that it was there. She was silent for many moments, stopping her bobbing and her jubilant vibrating, and general extruding of endless energy that had been ceaseless up until this point. And instead, she was just looking out to the horde of people in the casino, before finally speaking, without so much as a turn of her head to Yaksha to indicate that she was talking to him. Her voice, like her expression, was like words whispered on the wind. They were heard, but the tone was snatched away before it could be understood.
"So, are we going to get down to why you have brought me here, or are we going to keep talking in circles until one of us falls over, too dizzy to be going in circles anymore? We have had plenty of time to talk about pleasantries, so now we can get down to business" She asked Yaksha, her hands behind her back, her posture straight as an arrow - to the point that her muscles were well on show in the clothes she was wearing - and her gaze set dead ahead on the people milling around, gambling and trying to win their fortune. It was almost as if a Lion was waiting on the long grass, staring at it's prey and trying to understand it so that it might pounce with the best efficiency that it could muster, and ensure that it would be fed tonight.
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Re: Just Can't Win for Losing[Yaksha/Ulv]
Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:48 pm
"I had originally brought you here to serve as an example. It's the way of Vegas; cheaters are brought low, to discourage people from trying to trick the house. We provide a service, and everyone here understands that victory is earned, not guaranteed. But now I've moved past that. It was a fickle desire, and I see no point to it any longer. You're strong, I can tell that much. And soon enough, I will have a great need of strength like yours. Play these games to your heart's content. I'll consider it an investment into your future."
Yaksha remained ramrod straight, gaze flickering all about them, taking in every detail, seeming to drink things in. He opened his mouth, letting his tongue dart out, running across his lips, then paused. His mouth simply hung there, as if he were trying to think of what to say next, then closed, as he looked down on them as well. His eyes closed, tightly, as if he were deep in thought, or meditation, and then his hands balled together, slowly, as if on some automated process.
"And, much though I hate it, I'll end up having to fight as well, I'm certain. It would be foolish of me to assume I can keep this all maintained with a quick tongue and much luck."
Yaksha remained ramrod straight, gaze flickering all about them, taking in every detail, seeming to drink things in. He opened his mouth, letting his tongue dart out, running across his lips, then paused. His mouth simply hung there, as if he were trying to think of what to say next, then closed, as he looked down on them as well. His eyes closed, tightly, as if he were deep in thought, or meditation, and then his hands balled together, slowly, as if on some automated process.
"And, much though I hate it, I'll end up having to fight as well, I'm certain. It would be foolish of me to assume I can keep this all maintained with a quick tongue and much luck."
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Re: Just Can't Win for Losing[Yaksha/Ulv]
Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:42 pm
The Reborn Wolf
"Having been informed of the reality of this building, I have lost interest in using it's services. As such I feel I will be a very poor investment in any future. You may treat me as you would any cheater, I shall not grace this building again. Fickle though the desire may have been, you have to keep up appearances. An ounce of prevention is better than a Pound of Cure, and all that. If you must bring my image low then you may, it matters little to me. I was not trying to cheat, I was simply playing the game a different way to how it was meant to be played. I am sure you can bargain for my strength when you need it, though the price will be proportionate to the service offered. But I shall leave your people to the fun, and their proper way of playing" Ulv spoke softly, but with great weight. Something had been said, or not said, and it had changed her opinion of this entire outfit dramatically. And it did not seem for the better.
"Everyone fights sooner or later, the time frame merely resides on their actions. Only the craven who hide under rocks can avoid a fight for the whole of their lives. So you are presented with two choices. Eventually, your extinction level demons, or an entirely different party, will come making demands, and you will have to give the demanded to them. But what you do in response is up to you. Something, or nothing. If your desire carries you towards nothing then your life remains peaceful and undisturbed. If it carries you towards something then you will have to change your views on violence, since few people these days can resolve anything with just words. It is all force, destruction and more force"
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Re: Just Can't Win for Losing[Yaksha/Ulv]
Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:39 pm
"As I said, I have had precious few chances to be tutored. And I have spent time pursuing strength of mind and will, moreso than the body. Given my...circumstances. To do anything else would've been foolishness. Perhaps even suicidal. It took me a long time to get to where I am, and now I'm forced to accept the simple truth that I can't go any further without force."
He shook his own head, and then folded his hands behind his back, looking down upon the guests there. He once more seemed to be searching for words, desperately trying to figure out what the next step forward was. He inhaled slowly, nostrils flaring, fingers lacing together, as he opened his mouth, began to speak...and then shook his head. He seemed to be warring with the voices in his own head, constantly; he tilted his head to the side, body continuing to move as if on autopilot, tracking any number of things only he was aware of, before he finally spoke.
"I'm offering you a job as a competitor in my arena. I'll pay you for every match you compete in. And I will almost certainly be taking part in the matches myself, once I have reached a point in my arrangements that I can afford to spend significant chunks of time in physical therapy. It's something I've been very slow to accept of late. All of this is...just a niche. I can't say I'm proud to be a supplier, but I have little other choice at this point in my plans. I am a scavenger. It's been my way for far too long. To try and step into the world of predators, all at once...it's a very daunting process. And I've been long waiting for some guidance."
He shook his own head, and then folded his hands behind his back, looking down upon the guests there. He once more seemed to be searching for words, desperately trying to figure out what the next step forward was. He inhaled slowly, nostrils flaring, fingers lacing together, as he opened his mouth, began to speak...and then shook his head. He seemed to be warring with the voices in his own head, constantly; he tilted his head to the side, body continuing to move as if on autopilot, tracking any number of things only he was aware of, before he finally spoke.
"I'm offering you a job as a competitor in my arena. I'll pay you for every match you compete in. And I will almost certainly be taking part in the matches myself, once I have reached a point in my arrangements that I can afford to spend significant chunks of time in physical therapy. It's something I've been very slow to accept of late. All of this is...just a niche. I can't say I'm proud to be a supplier, but I have little other choice at this point in my plans. I am a scavenger. It's been my way for far too long. To try and step into the world of predators, all at once...it's a very daunting process. And I've been long waiting for some guidance."
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Re: Just Can't Win for Losing[Yaksha/Ulv]
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:23 pm
The Reborn Wolf
"And I am denying your job offer as a competitor in your arena. I am sure there are plenty of people that will fight there for money, so long as it is well regulated and has ring-side doctors and such. Even with gloves, you are still getting punched in the face, so damage can happen if they guy has somehow managed to sneak past the fact that he has anvils for hands. And fitted those anvils into a pair of gloves. The world is filled with people who seek physical perfection, and a lot of them have bills to pay. So entice them to come down and fight for you. Grab an old guy who has been fighting most of his life and only stopped because throwing a punch hurts him more than the guy he his punching. There are plenty of those around, any one of them could teach you how to fight"
Ulv stared out into the crowd of people, and shook her head, turning to leave the office entirely now. She had outstayed her ability to remain polite, and it would be rude to snap at him simply because she had a little issue with controlling herself around people as strange and morally flexible as him.
"But it won't be with me. You and I will not get along in the slightest. We can force it, we can try to make us get along and then eventually fail and the relationship turns more sour until one of us snaps and does something drastic. But I don't like doing something drastic, and I feel that your limp has come from a relationship just like that. So I am going to leave you to your plans, and make sure that you are not hurt by my hand. Because I don't think it is a hand you'll recover from"
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Re: Just Can't Win for Losing[Yaksha/Ulv]
Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:48 pm
Yaksha, The Anthropophagus
This time Yaksha moved with surprising speed...or perhaps the black-and-purple corona that seemed to emanate from around him and then fade was what did it. Either way, he was resting just by the exit, his hands suddenly in front of himself, and the words pouring forward like a torrent, as if he couldn't control them.
"I can't accept that answer. I have spent too long on my own, being a...passive observer. Across generations, across cultures, I've watched from over shoulders. It's a habit I fell into, after a time. I started thinking of myself as a passive person. Things happened to me, other people did things. It was never "I upset someone"; always "Someone is upset with me". I'm tired of looking at the world that way. I'm an old creature, but I've spent the entire last year pushing my knowledge and my capacity to learn to its very limit. This limp...once I would've told you that someone else hurt me, but that isn't true. I was hurt. Both physically and mentally. One of the first...people in this world, who was willing to give me a chance. I fucked it up, over and over, always trying to...force something that wasn't meant to be. I wanted to make something happen, instead of being the one it happened to. And in the end, I made a great many accusations. Ones that should've never been spoken. But it's too late to take them back now."
Yaksha rolled both of his shoulders, bowing his head deeply, gracefully, and exhaling through his nostrils again. There was nothing but a cool and patient lilt to his tone now; it was very nearly as if he were singing, and there was the very strong impression he had the intention of repeating himself over and over, as many times as necessary.
"I have offended you too, I see. There's no point in trying to couch it in nice terminology. I fucked up. I invited you in here, planning to bend you over my knee and spank you for a simple misunderstanding. I felt guilty. And then I made a proposition that I hadn't thought through. All of these are simple facts, and all of them are burdens resting on my shoulders alone. I could make excuses, but it changes nothing. I've been trying to force something that can only happen organically. It's something I really need to stop. Here and now. I struggle to take the reins, and worry every time that when I do, I'll drive right into a cliff. I've been avoiding fights because I keep telling myself that I wouldn't be able to keep up, and if I did...bad things would happen. But that's not true. I think, if I were to learn how to hurt others, I would start to do some very bad things. I've told myself that being weak, and crafty, was the best way to stop myself from being...just another monster. But that's been denying a part of myself. And I can't be satisfied until I find a way past this block."
He rose his gaze, slowly, running a hand through his hair, and then meeting her eyes. He inhaled slowly, once more, and then gestured towards the door.
"I honestly think you're wrong, again. Even now, I can't think of a single thing you could do that would lead me to burn our bridge. I've had too few in my life, and felt the sting of isolation too many times to ever do that to another. You will be welcome in my abode at any time. You need only ask for Yaksha Dokuja, and I will do everything in my power to render you aid."
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Re: Just Can't Win for Losing[Yaksha/Ulv]
Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:48 pm
The Reborn Wolf
Ulv stared at Yaksha as he appeared in the door way and refused her answer, going on a rant about things that meant very little at this late stage in the game. And when she stared, it was a horrific stare. A stare as if he were a normal human stumbling through the underbrush and then tripping and coming face to face with a giant wolf. The stare would probably be reminiscent of another. She looked on for many moments, and then shook her head.
"You are right, but wrong, Yaksha. Learning to fight makes you a monster. Using that ability to fight feeds the monster. But a man's worth is shown in how he deals with that monster. And to fear it is wrong, for who can fear that which does not exist. You don't know what will come until it happens, and then you react accordingly" She told him, stepping through the doorway and turning back.
"We will not get along, ever. I dislike you entirely. But not for nothing, I will not leave you guessing. It is nothing that you have said, precisely, but more what you have done. You claim to hate violence as a whole, and hate twice violence that is not used for the kill. And you find the act of betting on that violence absurd. And yet you have a fighting pit already installed where people can come and fight without going for the kill, and you allow people to bet on it, in your establishment. That tells me all I need to know, that your beliefs and your values are second to progress and the bottom line. Someone I can not stand to be with. One's values are all that we are, and if we discard them for the sake of anything then we become less of a man. Less of a creature. It opens up the question of what else will you sacrifice? And I don't want to be friends with a person that could see me as simply another thing to get ahead. Maybe you won't, but there is proof you do things that you hate, and no proof that you don't. So I leave before the possibility of betrayal can set in. Goodbye Yaksha" She gave him one last glance, and then left, calmly, and with the gait of a woman who was confident beyond anything else in the world.
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